6 things we learned about Delta this week during its earnings call
Delta held its second-quarter earnings call on Wednesday. It's part of a routine carried out every three months by publicly traded companies, during which they update investors about the state of the company and answer questions from analysts.
The tone of Delta's calls — like those of many industries — have changed dramatically since the earliest days of the pandemic. Gone are the days of discussing cash burn, reductions, and job cuts. Now the themes include aircraft acquisition, hiring sprees, and booming demand for travel.
A few revealing tidbits emerged during the call, all of which offer insight into the Delta Air Lines that will emerge from the pandemic — and into what you can expect when traveling today. Here are six things we learned about Delta.
Call times will stay bad through summer
Customers who have tried to contact Delta in recent months have likely encountered frustratingly long hold times, even when using the airline's text messaging service. The support that Delta agents used to provide by Twitter direct message, meanwhile, has been missing.
Even as other carriers have managed to make improvements amid the surge in leisure travel demand, the long hold times at Delta have notably remained.
Although the airline is on a hiring spree and is bringing in staff to help manage the call centers, things will likely not get back to normal before September.
“We’ll be fully back over the next couple of months,” CEO Ed Bastian said. “The service levels that customers should expect and deserve, you’ll be getting that from Delta in the next couple of months.”
More: Delta says those long call-center hold times should improve by September
“We’re hiring a couple thousand people into reservations,” Bastian said on Wednesday.
“The challenge, as I mentioned on the call, is the training,” he added. “The time it takes to get people into position.”
Business travel is returning sooner than expected
Earlier in the pandemic, even the most optimistic airline insiders had largely written off 2021 for business travel, with any meaningful recovery not expected until 2022.
But things have improved much faster than that.
"We are starting to see signs of a resurgence of business and international travel, both of which are supporting the next leg of the revenue recovery," Bastian said.
"Domestic business travel is on an improving trajectory with corporate volumes 40% recovered in the month of June, doubling from the 20% recovery rate in March," airline president Glen Hauenstein said. "Small and medium-sized enterprise volumes continued to outperform corporates by 10 points and are now 50% recovered."
More: Business travel is surging back sooner than expected, but there’s still some bad news for airlines
Importantly, it isn't just a few companies driving that increase: about 95% of Delta's corporate accounts booked travel for June.
This is crucial for every airline. The boom in post-lockdown demand so far has been largely led by leisure travelers, and a significant falloff is expected when schools reopen and the summer travel season ends after Labor Day. Business travel, which typically offers airlines higher yields than leisure travel, can offset that dip.
"Our close engagement with customers gives us increased confidence of the acceleration of business travel, especially as we move toward the post-Labor Day period as schools and offices continue to reopen," Hauenstein added."
Premium seats are selling — and that could make it harder to get upgrades
Earlier in the pandemic, getting an upgrade was fairly common for anyone with even lower-level Delta Medallion status. Frequent business travelers were grounded, people generally weren't flying, and even when leisure travel began to pick back up, there were usually seats available at the front.
But that's not the case as much these days — and a big reason is that Delta is managing to sell most of its premium seats.
"Premium products are demonstrating resilience where demand is strongest," Bastian said, referring to growth. "Domestic and short-haul Latin premium revenues are outpacing main cabin by five to 10 points."
Plane upgrade: Onboard Delta’s first retrofitted Boeing 767 with snazzy new cabins
"We believe this will be reflected at the system level as premium revenue and other entities improve with the return of business and international travel at scale."
Like United, Delta continues to see a value in premium cabins, and expects to continue growing seat availability with the broader fleet.
"As we continue to update the airline over the next several years, our percentage of seats that are in the premium cabins continues to increase," Bastian said. "And we think given the fact that we are still in the early stages of being able to distribute those products and services to all of our customers through all of our channels, that there's plenty of opportunity for us to continue to grow that space in the next few years."
International demand is strong — when countries are open
Throughout the second quarter — particularly the latter part — countries in Europe began reopening their borders to travelers, particularly those who have been vaccinated.
As soon as a country reopened, pent-up demand surged, Bastian said.
"During the quarter, we began experiencing strengthened demand to select European countries as they reopened," Bastian said. "Despite volatility in global COVID recovery trends, international travel is accelerating with capacity and load factors increasing as we head into the fall."
More: FAA doles out $124,500 more in fines as it continues unruly flyer crackdown
"When we spoke last quarter, only two European countries had reopened for U.S. citizens," he added. "Today, more than 15 European countries are open, and we're seeing strong bookings follow as border closings lift."
Delta's experience is consistent with what other carriers have seen; as countries reopen to Americans and airlines add flights, demand grows.
Airlines expect that travel to Europe will actually increase in the fall, including leisure travel, despite the usual leisure lull between the summer and holiday travel seasons.
"We're seeing a U.S.-based demand recovery to the open countries in the transatlantic, and we expect our loads to be close to historical levels, running probably in the low-to-mid eighties, by the August, September, October period," Bastian said.
Notably, however, the U.S. remains closed to European visitors, and until those restrictions lift, recovery in the transatlantic market will be stunted.
"35% to 40% of our travel is still missing with the European origin piece not open for sale," Bastian said, "and with business [travel] really not recovering at the same level as leisure."
"So [we're] pretty optimistic about where we can get to on this leg, but there's a lot more to come in transatlantic."
Heading backwards is unlikely
Even as variants emerge and cases, hospitalizations, and even deaths increase again among unvaccinated people, Delta thinks it's unlikely that things will go back to the way they were during the height of the pandemic.
Asked whether he could envision a scenario where Delta might trim capacity or cut back on routes to domestic areas with outbreaks, or even begin blocking middle seats again, Bastian responded simply: "I don't."
"Clearly we're mindful about the risks around COVID and the new variants and the continued information that the CDC provides us with," Bastian said.
More: Delta will add 36 aircraft to fleet as it takes a different tack from United
So far, the airline has not seen a direct impact caused by the homonymous Delta variant, Bastian said, particularly in demand and bookings over the next 60 to 90 days.
"We know our customers are largely vaccinated," Bastian said. "Our people are largely vaccinated."
About 72% of Delta employees are fully vaccinated.
"The vaccines work and they're giving people the ability to get back to their lives," Bastian added. "So no, we're not anticipating any changes at this time."
Delta is looking into the eVTOL craze, but isn't ready to announce anything
In February, United Airlines announced that it had invested in and placed a soft order with air taxi startup Archer Aviation — American Airlines and Virgin Atlantic co-announced a similar investment and order with rival startup Vertical Aerospace.
eVTOL, or electric vertical take-off and landing aircraft, are a new class of vehicle currently under development. Typically with 5-6 seats, they are anticipated to function as air taxis, and competition is fierce to bring the first model to market.
Despite the announcements from rivals (and despite the fact that Delta owns 49% of Virgin Atlantic), the airline is not ready to commit to anything quite yet.
"We're studying the space and we will continue to get smart in the space," Bastian said. "I think it's at a very early stage right now, and I think a lot of the plans that we've seen are a bit premature, candidly."
More: United will potentially buy up to 100 small electric planes in new soft order
The airline has, however, had discussions with numerous manufacturers.
"It's hard to predict timing," Bastian added. "but we're in the marketplace having lots of conversations.
TPG featured card
Rewards
| 4X | Earn 4X Membership Rewards® points per dollar spent on purchases at restaurants worldwide, on up to $50,000 in purchases per calendar year, then 1X points for the rest of the year. |
| 4X | Earn 4X Membership Rewards® points per dollar spent at US supermarkets, on up to $25,000 in purchases per calendar year, then 1X points for the rest of the year. |
| 3X | Earn 3X Membership Rewards® points per dollar spent on flights booked directly with airlines or on AmexTravel.com. |
| 2X | Earn 2X Membership Rewards® points per dollar spent on prepaid hotels and other eligible purchases booked on AmexTravel.com. |
| 1X | Earn 1X Membership Rewards® point per dollar spent on all other eligible purchases. |
Intro offer
Annual Fee
Recommended Credit
Why We Chose It
There’s a lot to love about the Amex Gold. It’s a fan favorite thanks to its fantastic bonus-earning rates at restaurants worldwide and at U.S. supermarkets. If you’re hitting the skies soon, you’ll also earn bonus Membership Rewards points on travel. Paired with up to $120 in Uber Cash annually (for U.S. Uber rides or Uber Eats orders, card must be added to Uber app and you can redeem with any Amex card), up to $120 in annual dining statement credits to be used with eligible partners, an up to $84 Dunkin’ credit each year at U.S. Dunkin Donuts and an up to $100 Resy credit annually, there’s no reason that foodies shouldn’t add the Amex Gold to their wallet. These benefits alone are worth more than $400, which offsets the $325 annual fee on the Amex Gold card. Enrollment is required for select benefits. (Partner offer)Pros
- 4 points per dollar spent on dining at restaurants worldwide and U.S. supermarkets (on the first $50,000 in purchases per calendar year; then 1 point per dollar spent thereafter and $25,000 in purchases per calendar year; then 1 point per dollar spent thereafter, respectively)
- 3 points per dollar spent on flights booked directly with the airline or with amextravel.com
- Packed with credits foodies will enjoy
- Solid welcome bonus
Cons
- Not as useful for those living outside the U.S.
- Some may have trouble using Uber and other dining credits
- You may be eligible for as high as 100,000 Membership Rewards® Points after you spend $6,000 in eligible purchases on your new Card in your first 6 months of Card Membership. Welcome offers vary and you may not be eligible for an offer. Apply to know if you’re approved and find out your exact welcome offer amount – all with no credit score impact. If you’re approved and choose to accept the Card, your score may be impacted.
- Earn 4X Membership Rewards® points per dollar spent on purchases at restaurants worldwide, on up to $50,000 in purchases per calendar year, then 1X points for the rest of the year.
- Earn 4X Membership Rewards® points per dollar spent at US supermarkets, on up to $25,000 in purchases per calendar year, then 1X points for the rest of the year.
- Earn 3X Membership Rewards® points per dollar spent on flights booked directly with airlines or on AmexTravel.com.
- Earn 2X Membership Rewards® points per dollar spent on prepaid hotels and other eligible purchases booked on AmexTravel.com.
- Earn 1X Membership Rewards® point per dollar spent on all other eligible purchases.
- $120 Uber Cash on Gold: Add your Gold Card to your Uber account and get $10 in Uber Cash each month to use on orders and rides in the U.S. when you select an American Express Card for your transaction. That’s up to $120 Uber Cash annually. Plus, after using your Uber Cash, use your Card to earn 4X Membership Rewards® points for Uber Eats purchases made with restaurants or U.S. supermarkets. Point caps and terms apply.
- $84 Dunkin' Credit: With the $84 Dunkin' Credit, you can earn up to $7 in monthly statement credits after you enroll and pay with the American Express® Gold Card at U.S. Dunkin' locations. Enrollment is required to receive this benefit.
- $100 Resy Credit: Get up to $100 in statement credits each calendar year after you pay with the American Express® Gold Card to dine at U.S. Resy restaurants or make other eligible Resy purchases. That's up to $50 in statement credits semi-annually. Enrollment required.
- $120 Dining Credit: Satisfy your cravings, sweet or savory, with the $120 Dining Credit. Earn up to $10 in statement credits monthly when you pay with the American Express® Gold Card at Grubhub, The Cheesecake Factory, Goldbelly, Wine.com, and Five Guys. Enrollment required.
- Explore over 1,000 upscale hotels worldwide with The Hotel Collection and receive a $100 credit towards eligible charges* with every booking of two nights or more through AmexTravel.com. *Eligible charges vary by property.
- No Foreign Transaction Fees.
- Annual Fee is $325.
- Terms Apply.
Rewards Rate
| 4X | Earn 4X Membership Rewards® points per dollar spent on purchases at restaurants worldwide, on up to $50,000 in purchases per calendar year, then 1X points for the rest of the year. |
| 4X | Earn 4X Membership Rewards® points per dollar spent at US supermarkets, on up to $25,000 in purchases per calendar year, then 1X points for the rest of the year. |
| 3X | Earn 3X Membership Rewards® points per dollar spent on flights booked directly with airlines or on AmexTravel.com. |
| 2X | Earn 2X Membership Rewards® points per dollar spent on prepaid hotels and other eligible purchases booked on AmexTravel.com. |
| 1X | Earn 1X Membership Rewards® point per dollar spent on all other eligible purchases. |
Intro Offer
You may be eligible for as high as 100,000 Membership Rewards® Points after spending $6,000 in eligible purchases on your new Card in your first 6 months of Membership. Welcome offers vary and you may not be eligible for an offer.As High As 100,000 points. Find Out Your Offer.Annual Fee
$325Recommended Credit
Credit ranges are a variation of FICO® Score 8, one of many types of credit scores lenders may use when considering your credit card application.Excellent to Good
Why We Chose It
There’s a lot to love about the Amex Gold. It’s a fan favorite thanks to its fantastic bonus-earning rates at restaurants worldwide and at U.S. supermarkets. If you’re hitting the skies soon, you’ll also earn bonus Membership Rewards points on travel. Paired with up to $120 in Uber Cash annually (for U.S. Uber rides or Uber Eats orders, card must be added to Uber app and you can redeem with any Amex card), up to $120 in annual dining statement credits to be used with eligible partners, an up to $84 Dunkin’ credit each year at U.S. Dunkin Donuts and an up to $100 Resy credit annually, there’s no reason that foodies shouldn’t add the Amex Gold to their wallet. These benefits alone are worth more than $400, which offsets the $325 annual fee on the Amex Gold card. Enrollment is required for select benefits. (Partner offer)Pros
- 4 points per dollar spent on dining at restaurants worldwide and U.S. supermarkets (on the first $50,000 in purchases per calendar year; then 1 point per dollar spent thereafter and $25,000 in purchases per calendar year; then 1 point per dollar spent thereafter, respectively)
- 3 points per dollar spent on flights booked directly with the airline or with amextravel.com
- Packed with credits foodies will enjoy
- Solid welcome bonus
Cons
- Not as useful for those living outside the U.S.
- Some may have trouble using Uber and other dining credits
- You may be eligible for as high as 100,000 Membership Rewards® Points after you spend $6,000 in eligible purchases on your new Card in your first 6 months of Card Membership. Welcome offers vary and you may not be eligible for an offer. Apply to know if you’re approved and find out your exact welcome offer amount – all with no credit score impact. If you’re approved and choose to accept the Card, your score may be impacted.
- Earn 4X Membership Rewards® points per dollar spent on purchases at restaurants worldwide, on up to $50,000 in purchases per calendar year, then 1X points for the rest of the year.
- Earn 4X Membership Rewards® points per dollar spent at US supermarkets, on up to $25,000 in purchases per calendar year, then 1X points for the rest of the year.
- Earn 3X Membership Rewards® points per dollar spent on flights booked directly with airlines or on AmexTravel.com.
- Earn 2X Membership Rewards® points per dollar spent on prepaid hotels and other eligible purchases booked on AmexTravel.com.
- Earn 1X Membership Rewards® point per dollar spent on all other eligible purchases.
- $120 Uber Cash on Gold: Add your Gold Card to your Uber account and get $10 in Uber Cash each month to use on orders and rides in the U.S. when you select an American Express Card for your transaction. That’s up to $120 Uber Cash annually. Plus, after using your Uber Cash, use your Card to earn 4X Membership Rewards® points for Uber Eats purchases made with restaurants or U.S. supermarkets. Point caps and terms apply.
- $84 Dunkin' Credit: With the $84 Dunkin' Credit, you can earn up to $7 in monthly statement credits after you enroll and pay with the American Express® Gold Card at U.S. Dunkin' locations. Enrollment is required to receive this benefit.
- $100 Resy Credit: Get up to $100 in statement credits each calendar year after you pay with the American Express® Gold Card to dine at U.S. Resy restaurants or make other eligible Resy purchases. That's up to $50 in statement credits semi-annually. Enrollment required.
- $120 Dining Credit: Satisfy your cravings, sweet or savory, with the $120 Dining Credit. Earn up to $10 in statement credits monthly when you pay with the American Express® Gold Card at Grubhub, The Cheesecake Factory, Goldbelly, Wine.com, and Five Guys. Enrollment required.
- Explore over 1,000 upscale hotels worldwide with The Hotel Collection and receive a $100 credit towards eligible charges* with every booking of two nights or more through AmexTravel.com. *Eligible charges vary by property.
- No Foreign Transaction Fees.
- Annual Fee is $325.
- Terms Apply.

