Maximizing Stopovers, Transfers and Open Jaw Ticketing on American Airlines Awards

by The Points Guy on June 30, 2011 · 78 comments

in American,Beginners Series,Oneworld,Points Guy Pointers

This is the fourth installment in the series. See also DeltaBritish Airways and US Airways. To come: Continental, United and Air Canada.

American Airlines was the first US legacy carrier to institute one-way awards and when that happened, they greatly scaled back the flexibility of awards when it came to stopovers. As the saying goes, as one hand giveth the other hand taketh away, which is often what happens when airlines and hotels “enhance” their programs. However, you can still build some pretty valuable awards using your hard-earned AA miles, but you need to understand the rules first.

The basics :
AA has three types of awards (AA award homepage)
1) All AA awards (Chart) Eligible for travel only on American Airlines flights (including AmericanEagle and American Connection partners)

2) All partner awards (Chart) which can be used for travel on a combination of America, Oneworld and Other Airline partners.
One world partners: British Airways (including affiliates like Cityflyer), Cathay Pacific (including DragonAir), FinnAir, Iberia, LAN (Incl. Peru, Ecuador and Argentina affiliates), Qantas (including JetConnect and QantasLink), Japan Airlines, Malev, Royal Jordanian, Mexicana (which currently has operations suspended) and S7.
Other Partners: Air Pacific, Air Tahiti Nui, Alaska Airlines/Horizon Air, Etihad, EL AL, GOL, Gulf Air, Hawaiian Airlines, Jet Airways and Cape Air

3) Oneworld awards (Chart). Must include at least two of the following airlines:  British Airways (including affiliates like Cityflyer), Cathay Pacific (including DragonAir), FinnAir, Iberia, LAN (Incl. Peru, Ecuador and Argentina affiliates), Qantas (including JetConnect and QantasLink), Japan Airlines, Malev, Royal Jordanian, Mexicana (which currently has operations suspended) and S7.

Note: Only AA awards can be booked online. All other awards must be booked over the phone, which will incur a $25 phone ticketing fee. To check Oneworld award availability, you can use a mix of BritishAirways.com (which has been very buggy lately), Qantas.com.au, Award Nexus, KVS Tool and ExpertFlyer.

AA Award Rules:
Transfers: A transfer is less than 4 hours in a city for domestic awards and 24 hours international. If you take the last flight into a city and then next available connection isn’t until the following morning, then it will not count as a stopover as long as the total connection time is less than 24 hours.
Stopovers:
Domestic awards: None
International awards:  A stopover is allowed at the North American gateway. For example, if you fly Atlanta-Miami-Lima you can stop in Miami for a week (or however long you want).

All Partner Award Rules:
Transfers: A transfer is less than 4 hours in a city for domestic awards and 24 hours international. If you take the last flight into a city and then next available connection isn’t until the following morning, then it will not count as a stopover as long as the total connection time is less than 24 hours.
Stopovers allowed:
Domestic awards: None
International awards:  A stopover is allowed at the North American gateway (the city you fly in/out of). For example, if you fly Tokyo-Los Angeles-Chicago , you can stop in Los Angeles.

While most people don’t want to stop in a US city on an international trip, what this allows is the ability to build in free trips to Hawaii or the Caribbean. Per the AA award chart Hawaii and the Caribbean are a separate region when you originate in North America and travel to those locations, however, when traveling to and from Europe, Hawaii/Caribbean are lumped into North America. Per the AA award chart, when traveling internationally North America is defined as the “U.S. (including Hawaii and Alaska), Canada, Mexico, Bermuda, The Bahamas, and the Caribbean.”  For example, lets say you want to fly JFK-London-JFK. That award on AA will cost you 60,000 miles in coach roundtrip (40,000 off-peak). However,  Honolulu to London also costs 60,000 miles and you can “stop” in JFK. So instead of JFK-LHR-JFK, you could book:
HNL-DFW-JFK (Stop), JFK-LHR
LHR-JFK (Stop)- DFW-HNL

Even if you don’t want to include a Hawaii trip, you can include transcontinental trips. So if you are traveling from Los Angeles to Tokyo roundtrip, why not add on JFK-LAX and LAX-JFK legs before and after your trip since you can use Los Angeles as your stopover city since it is the US gateway city?

Even if you don’t know when you’d use a future segment like LAX-JFK, American allows changes in dates on awards as long as the origin and destination points do not change. So you can book a dummy last leg and in a worst case scenario, you never use it. AA charges a $25 phone booking fee, but that’s absolutely worth it (in my mind) to add free flights in the future.

Oneworld awards

Oneworld awards are most useful for people planning Round the World itineraries. There is an incredibly useful thread on the topic on Flyertalk, which I recommend for anyone interested in one of these awards.

Stopovers/Transfers: Per AA, “Stopover is defined as more than 4 hours for domestic flights, and 6 hours for international flights. If there are no scheduled flights within this timeframe, regardless of availability, you must take the next scheduled flight but may not exceed 24 hours. If the connection exceeds 24 hours, it will be considered a stopover.”

In general, you can build in up to 16 segments. Generally each flight is one segment, so JFK-London-Amman-Tokyo-LAX-JFK would be 5 segments. However, if you fly into a city and then out of another like JFK-London, Paris-Amman-Tokyo-LAX-JFK would be 6 segments.

Open Jaw: One allowed, plus one at the origin/destination. For example, you can fly into one city and out of another during the trip (into London, out of Paris for example) and then also end at a different city than you started. For example, starting the trip in New York and ending in Los Angeles.

To calculate the total mileage of your trip, you do not count your connection cities. So if you were traveling from Pittsburgh to Paris, but had a connection in New York, you’d only count PIT-Paris miles- not PIT-JFK-Paris. This is nice because certain connections can add a lot of miles to your trip and if you plan your trip carefully, you can come in just under a certain mileage threshold. To find out the amount of miles between cities, you can use the Great Circle Mapper distance tool, though the ticketing agent will have the final say on the amount of miles for the trip.

If you need AA miles, as of today (June 30, 2011) the 75,000 AA mile Citi cards are still active, even though it doesn’t state it on the online application. This is a relatively 150,000 AA miles (if you get the Visa and Amex) so for more information check out this post.

Starwood points also transfer at a 1:1 ratio to AA and there’s the standard 5,000 mile bonus per each block of 20,000 Starwood points you transfer. You can get a Starwood Amex with a 25,000 point sign-up bonus (after 15k in spend within the first 6 months) and fee waived for the first year.

Currently, all points earned via credit cards, including sign-up bonuses, count towards Million Mile status, but it’s rumored that will change soon. Get in while the getting is good!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Scotti-Mac/100002677567421 Scotti Mac

    TPG, I haven’t seen a response to this question, but my confusion is along the same terms as DZT’s.

    Question 1 is essentially correct, but easy, seeing that it starts and ends from one’s home destination, one could stay in LA for as one as one wanted before continuing to to NRT.

    Question 2 though is where I also am confused. The way you put it in the post, it seemed as though you either need to change the order of the “free vacation to gateway city of your choice” like DZT proposes, or buy additional one way legs to and from the gateway city essentially getting 2 vacations there for the price of one.

    Any help would be appreciated.

    Scott

  • Anonymous

    Instead of one ways you could do LAX-DFW (stop for however long), DFW-LIMA
    Return LIMA-DFW (Stop for however long), DFW-LAX

    So instead of just DFW-Lima you have 2 lax legs as well.

    If you wanted to add a final LAX-DFW leg, you’d have to use a new one way award

  • Adam Rubin

    Thanks a lot for the quick reply, I know that this is an older post and appreciate your patience in explaining. The one thing I’m missing is that in your example wouldn’t you also need to book a one-way award to get to LAX (assuming ‘home’ is DFW in my previous example) to start the trip and at the end to get home?

    Assuming DFW is home then you could essentially bake in 2 “free” trips to LAX in the below round trip as enroute stopovers?

    DFW (origination city) – LAX (stopover), LAX – LIMA (final destination)
    Return LIMA – LAX (stopover) – DFW (return city)

  • Adam Rubin

    Never mind, I understand now. Found a great thread on FlyerTalk that had lots of discussion and additional examples to assist (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/american-aadvantage/952195-new-one-way-flex-award-awards-stopover-rule-booking-engine-may-9-2009-a-5.html)

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  • http://twitter.com/berma16 nicole

    I am one of the people who are still confused. Below “DZT” basically asked the same question that I have. Once you book the trip with the 2 extra legs:
    1 Do you call and change the dates which would change the order of the flights from what was originally booked
    2 Use one of the legs and then pay or use a separate reward for the remaining leg.

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  • Anonymous

    What about travel starting outside the US? I need a ticket from GRU-JFK/WAS and was now wondering if I could maximize this with the stop being in JFK?

    something like:

    GRU-JFK(Stop 6 months)
    JFK-IST or something like that
    IST- JFK/GRU?

    Thanks for the help!

  • Jeff

    Hi TPG,
    I read your instruction on maxmizing AA awards with great interest and followed-thru using the multi-city tool on AA website to book the following flights:
    BOS -> CDG (20k miles)
    LHG -> BOS (stopover for 6 months)
    BOS -> DFW
    DFW->HNL

    Has anyone had any success using Multi-city tool on AA to stitch together an international itinerary with multiple legs? It seems to price my trip incorrectly.

    It believes:
    BOS -> CDG (20k miles – this is right)
    LHG -> BOS (20k miles – this is right)
    BOS -> DFW (no miles charged – a msg that reads “This international award allows a stopover at Boston – BOS for no additional miles. Mileage required for both flights is displayed on the Award Legend for the international flight.”)
    DFW->HNL (17.5K – incorrect)

    Since DFW->HNL is part of the flight from BOS -> HNL, the tool doesn’t seem to be smart enough to know that DFW->HNL should be included in the LHG->BOS->HNL (20K miles) flight.

    Any ideas?

  • Anonymous

    Call to get it booked

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  • Bohemiana

    Is it possible to do a stop in LA on the way from Nashville to Hawaii without using up another domestic ticket? That’s a really long flight and it would be nice to break it up with a day or two in LA.

  • Bohemiana

    By the way, I’m talking about AA miles in the above example.

  • Kevin

    I’m thinkingt of booking a flight using AA miles from the west coast (LAX,PDX, SEA or SFO) to Quito, Ecuador (through Miami). How might you see me taking advantage of AA’s Int stop-over rule to maybe gain a “third” flight?

  • Bsmart68

    Hello Points Guy,

    I’ve been reading your blog for some time now, but this one has me a little stumped. Is it possible for you to do a screen shot with descriptions when booking this? Or could you provide step by step instructions? My airport is DFW.

  • Shane

    OK, so I just found this thread after searching about AA awards, I’m fairly new to the redeeming award travel but feel I have the basics. My problem is that I am trying to book a one-way award (LHR-SEA) utilizing the strategy listed, but the computer wants to add my additional domestic flight as a separate award. I am thinking LHR-SEA (home) but thought of adding a leg of SEA-JFK for later in the year (utilizing the free additional stopover) but it wants to count that leg as an additional 25,000 (Bus class award) where the LHR-SEA is 50,000.

    Can someone guess what I may be doing wrong? Thanks, Shane

  • TudorSue

    I need PointsGuy brilliance on this itinerary — and maximizing mileage and options — as I’ve twice now gotten unhelpful AAdvantage agents who only seem to want to push straight AA awards rather than OneWorld option. I’ll be traveling from NY to Vienna, open jaw (probably take the train from Vienna to Venice), return to NY from Venice.

    Business Class (1 traveler))
    10 April: JFK-VIE
    23 April: VCE-JFK

    For business class, if I do this via OneWorld alliance with two international airlines (say BA and Iberian), the award is 80K miles; using AA award, it’s 100K, correct?

    It doesn’t look like I have the option of a non-stop flight between Vienna and Venice???

    All suggestions are appreciated. I’ve learned a lot from this post and your blog in a very short time.

  • Esweetfriend

    I am confused,
    I want to pay for coach, and upgrade with my american miles….I want to go chicago to london, stay 3 days, then london to krakow, stay a week, then krakow to chicago…
    the agent says I cant do this using multi destination ticket, is that true
    thanks

  • Bohemiana

    I used AA Vacations to book LAX to London and back to LA from Madrid. And, I got 2 nights in London included for the same price as the ticket alone on AA.com

  • ozzy

    Is this correct? This is the impression I got.

  • Anonymous

    Correct- its one free trip from Hawaii to your gateway city before your trip and one to Hawaii after. It’s not a free round trip whenever you want it- you gotta work it in to other trips

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  • Paul

    Wow, excellent information, I wish I had found it sooner. One quick question, using a planned trip from NYC to London as an example. Book LAX-JFK-LHR as a one way award ticket. Question is, can the LAX-JFK segment be changed to a date AFTER the JFK-LHR segment? Or must segments be flown in the order booked? Thanks very much and please do keep up the good work.

  • thepointsguy

    Segments must be flown in order, do you can’t fly the first after the second

  • Paul

    Understood. Thank you very much.

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  • Abchilla

    I was wondering to get a flight from Frankfurt to Los Angeles and having a stopover in Chicago for 2 weeks inbetween. Is something like this possible?

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