How Points Advance cost me 135,000 Marriott points — reader mistake story
Today, I want to share a story from TPG reader Nicholas, who ended up owing Marriott a lot of extra points after a hotel he'd reserved with Points Advance went up a category:
Despite my best efforts to stay abreast of all the rules and pitfalls that come with the territory of award travel, I made a huge mistake that jeopardized our family's vacation.
In early February 2020, I made a reservation at the Ritz-Carlton Kapalua for a six-night stay in August 2020. At the time I made the reservation, this was a Category 7 property requiring 320,000 points for the stay (including a fifth night free). Since I was just shy of the necessary points, my wife initiated a transfer from her Bonvoy account to my account and I booked the reservation. Since my wife's transfer had not posted to my account at the time I made the reservation, I made a Points Advance reservation. I seem to have forgotten that I had done so or not understood the implications, or both.
Regardless, thinking my reservation was safe and that the required points would automatically deduct and be applied to the reservation as soon as my wife's transfer posted, I promptly made airfare and rental car reservations, then put the trip out of mind. As I now know, points must be manually applied to a Points Advance Reservation and the pricing is not locked in until that is done. Despite reading Summer Hull and Nick Ewen's articles warning that certain Marriott properties would be moving from Category 7 to Category 8, including the Ritz-Carlton Kapalua, it didn't occur to confirm my reservation. I let March 4 — the date properties changed categories — come and go. To my shock, the required number of points had increased to 455,000 when I checked my account on March 8!
I called the Bonvoy Elite reservation number and was bluntly told that there was nothing that could be done. Figuring it was a long shot, I contacted Marriott's Corporate Office of Consumer Affairs. A very helpful representative has indicated that they will monitor my account through June to determine the shortfall and "will try to assist to ensure that my account had the necessary points." So, while nothing has been expressly promised, they do seem to be ready to honor the reservation even if I am short the required points (albeit not at the original 320,000 points).
Since this transpired in early March, the world has obviously changed dramatically. I wish that the only challenge we faced was botched award travel logistics. We may not be able to take this trip anyway, but perhaps my error can still help other readers avoid making it too.
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This is an unfortunate story to hear, but there are two great lessons we can all take away from Nicholas' experience. The first is that you need to pay careful attention to how you book, especially if you're using a feature like Marriott's Points Advance that isn't 100% straightforward. While Points Advance used to be an incredible tool for award travelers, and a great way Marriott stood out from the competition, the feature was heavily devalued last year when Marriott introduced peak and off-peak pricing. Now, Points Advance only locks in your award inventory at the hotel, but the actual price can fluctuate up until the date where you confirm your booking and have the points debited from your account.
In most cases, this variation is going to be limited to a property changing between off-peak, standard and peak pricing. This might mean the price goes up a few thousand points (possibly tens of thousands for a longer stay at a higher-category property), but you also might get lucky and see the price drop if the hotel moves down to standard or off-peak pricing. Nicholas got especially unlucky here that the hotel he was staying at moved up an entire category, and his Points Advance reservation did nothing to protect him from that price change. I still use Marriott's Points Advance feature pretty regularly, but I always set a reminder on my calendar to debit the points as soon as I have enough in my account.
The second and equally-important lesson here is that you should always monitor your bookings up until the time of travel to make sure every detail is correct. There are a lot of moving parts that go into a trip, from selecting the right seats on an airline to making sure you account for date and time changes when booking your hotels. If you're booking your travel far in advance you should plan to follow up on your itinerary every 3 to 6 months until you actually travel, to make sure that your reservations are valid and confirmed and everything is taken care of.
Related: Maximizing redemptions with Marriott Bonvoy
I appreciate this story, and I hope it can help other readers avoid making the same mistake. In appreciation for sharing this experience (and for allowing us to post it online), I’m sending Nicholas a gift card to enjoy on future travels, and I’d like to do the same for you. Please email your own travel mistake stories to info@thepointsguy.com, and put “Reader Mistake Story” in the subject line. Tell us how things went wrong, and (where applicable) how you made them right. Offer any wisdom you gained from the experience, and explain what the rest of us can do to avoid the same pitfalls.
Feel free to also submit your best travel success stories. If your story is published in either case, I’ll send you a gift to jump-start your next adventure. Due to the volume of submissions, we can’t respond to each story individually, but we’ll be in touch if yours is selected. I look forward to hearing from you, and until then, I wish you a safe and mistake-free journey!
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There’s a lot to love about the Amex Gold. It’s a fan favorite thanks to its fantastic bonus-earning rates at restaurants worldwide and at U.S. supermarkets. If you’re hitting the skies soon, you’ll also earn bonus Membership Rewards points on travel. Paired with up to $120 in Uber Cash annually (for U.S. Uber rides or Uber Eats orders, card must be added to Uber app and you can redeem with any Amex card), up to $120 in annual dining statement credits to be used with eligible partners, an up to $84 Dunkin’ credit each year at U.S. Dunkin Donuts and an up to $100 Resy credit annually, there’s no reason that foodies shouldn’t add the Amex Gold to their wallet. These benefits alone are worth more than $400, which offsets the $325 annual fee on the Amex Gold card. Enrollment is required for select benefits. (Partner offer)Pros
- 4 points per dollar spent on dining at restaurants worldwide and U.S. supermarkets (on the first $50,000 in purchases per calendar year; then 1 point per dollar spent thereafter and $25,000 in purchases per calendar year; then 1 point per dollar spent thereafter, respectively)
- 3 points per dollar spent on flights booked directly with the airline or with amextravel.com
- Packed with credits foodies will enjoy
- Solid welcome bonus
Cons
- Not as useful for those living outside the U.S.
- Some may have trouble using Uber and other dining credits
- You may be eligible for as high as 100,000 Membership Rewards® Points after you spend $6,000 in eligible purchases on your new Card in your first 6 months of Card Membership. Welcome offers vary and you may not be eligible for an offer. Apply to know if you’re approved and find out your exact welcome offer amount – all with no credit score impact. If you’re approved and choose to accept the Card, your score may be impacted.
- Earn 4X Membership Rewards® points per dollar spent on purchases at restaurants worldwide, on up to $50,000 in purchases per calendar year, then 1X points for the rest of the year.
- Earn 4X Membership Rewards® points per dollar spent at US supermarkets, on up to $25,000 in purchases per calendar year, then 1X points for the rest of the year.
- Earn 3X Membership Rewards® points per dollar spent on flights booked directly with airlines or on AmexTravel.com.
- Earn 2X Membership Rewards® points per dollar spent on prepaid hotels and other eligible purchases booked on AmexTravel.com.
- Earn 1X Membership Rewards® point per dollar spent on all other eligible purchases.
- $120 Uber Cash on Gold: Add your Gold Card to your Uber account and get $10 in Uber Cash each month to use on orders and rides in the U.S. when you select an American Express Card for your transaction. That’s up to $120 Uber Cash annually. Plus, after using your Uber Cash, use your Card to earn 4X Membership Rewards® points for Uber Eats purchases made with restaurants or U.S. supermarkets. Point caps and terms apply.
- $84 Dunkin' Credit: With the $84 Dunkin' Credit, you can earn up to $7 in monthly statement credits after you enroll and pay with the American Express® Gold Card at U.S. Dunkin' locations. Enrollment is required to receive this benefit.
- $100 Resy Credit: Get up to $100 in statement credits each calendar year after you pay with the American Express® Gold Card to dine at U.S. Resy restaurants or make other eligible Resy purchases. That's up to $50 in statement credits semi-annually. Enrollment required.
- $120 Dining Credit: Satisfy your cravings, sweet or savory, with the $120 Dining Credit. Earn up to $10 in statement credits monthly when you pay with the American Express® Gold Card at Grubhub, The Cheesecake Factory, Goldbelly, Wine.com, and Five Guys. Enrollment required.
- Explore over 1,000 upscale hotels worldwide with The Hotel Collection and receive a $100 credit towards eligible charges* with every booking of two nights or more through AmexTravel.com. *Eligible charges vary by property.
- No Foreign Transaction Fees.
- Annual Fee is $325.
- Terms Apply.