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March 06, 2016
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Can I Transfer Points Both Ways Between Loyalty Programs?
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TPG reader Claire sent me an email to ask about transferring points:

“I know I can transfer 10,000 Ultimate Rewards points to Virgin Atlantic for 10,000 miles, and I can transfer those miles to Hilton for 15,000 HHonors points. Can I also go the other way and turn 15,000 HHonors points into 10,000 Ultimate Rewards points?"

One great way to maximize your points and miles is by taking advantage of transfer opportunities. Transferable points programs are highly useful because they enable you to redeem with whichever transfer partner suits your travel plans and offers the best value. Many hotel and airline programs offer transfer options as well, though they tend to be less lucrative.

Claire is curious about what might seem like a great opportunity to shift points from one program to another. I list Hilton HHonors at 0.5 cents per point in my latest monthly valuations, while Chase Ultimate Rewards are much more valuable at 2.1 cents. The chance to swap HHonors points for Ultimate Rewards (even at a 3:2 ratio) is the stuff award travel dreams are made of, but unfortunately, transfers don't work that way.

Chase lets you transfer points to Virgin Atlantic Flying Club, but you can't send miles back in the other direction. Hilton actually does let you transfer HHonors points to many frequent flyer programs, but the exchange rates aren't good. Transferring 10,000 HHonors points will get you just 1,500 Flying Club miles, so even if you could transfer from Virgin Atlantic back to Chase, you'd likely be losing value in the process.

You can transfer Ultimate Rewards points to Virgin Atlantic, but not vice versa.

Exchange rates do change from time to time, though it's usually for the worse. For example, Virgin Atlantic used to transfer to Hilton at 1:2 instead of the current 2:3, and Amex Membership Rewards recently dropped the transfer ratio to British Airways Avios. Loyalty programs have a pretty good handle on what rewards are worth, and they can't afford to offer transfers that are highly profitable for customers.

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That said, there are a few opportunities to increase the value of your points or miles by transferring from one program to another. One example is Marriott's Hotel + Air packages, which basically allow you to trade Marriott Rewards points for airline miles when you redeem for an extended hotel stay. You can also take advantage of bonuses to make transfers more worthwhile, though they're not as common as they used to be.

HHonors points are best used for hotel stays rather than for flights or other award redemptions. For more info about how to maximize rewards from Hilton, check out these posts:

If you have any other questions, please tweet me @thepointsguy, message me on Facebook or send me an email at info@thepointsguy.com.

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Why We Chose It

There’s a lot to love about the Amex Gold. It’s a fan favorite thanks to its fantastic bonus-earning rates at restaurants worldwide and at U.S. supermarkets. If you’re hitting the skies soon, you’ll also earn bonus Membership Rewards points on travel. Paired with up to $120 in Uber Cash annually (for U.S. Uber rides or Uber Eats orders, card must be added to Uber app and you can redeem with any Amex card), up to $120 in annual dining statement credits to be used with eligible partners, an up to $84 Dunkin’ credit each year at U.S. Dunkin Donuts and an up to $100 Resy credit annually, there’s no reason that foodies shouldn’t add the Amex Gold to their wallet. These benefits alone are worth more than $400, which offsets the $325 annual fee on the Amex Gold card. Enrollment is required for select benefits. (Partner offer)

Pros

  • 4 points per dollar spent on dining at restaurants worldwide and U.S. supermarkets (on the first $50,000 in purchases per calendar year; then 1 point per dollar spent thereafter and $25,000 in purchases per calendar year; then 1 point per dollar spent thereafter, respectively)
  • 3 points per dollar spent on flights booked directly with the airline or with amextravel.com
  • Packed with credits foodies will enjoy
  • Solid welcome bonus

Cons

  • Not as useful for those living outside the U.S.
  • Some may have trouble using Uber and other dining credits
  • You may be eligible for as high as 100,000 Membership Rewards® Points after you spend $6,000 in eligible purchases on your new Card in your first 6 months of Card Membership. Welcome offers vary and you may not be eligible for an offer. Apply to know if you’re approved and find out your exact welcome offer amount – all with no credit score impact. If you’re approved and choose to accept the Card, your score may be impacted.
  • Earn 4X Membership Rewards® points per dollar spent on purchases at restaurants worldwide, on up to $50,000 in purchases per calendar year, then 1X points for the rest of the year.
  • Earn 4X Membership Rewards® points per dollar spent at US supermarkets, on up to $25,000 in purchases per calendar year, then 1X points for the rest of the year.
  • Earn 3X Membership Rewards® points per dollar spent on flights booked directly with airlines or on AmexTravel.com.
  • Earn 2X Membership Rewards® points per dollar spent on prepaid hotels and other eligible purchases booked on AmexTravel.com.
  • Earn 1X Membership Rewards® point per dollar spent on all other eligible purchases.
  • $120 Uber Cash on Gold: Add your Gold Card to your Uber account and get $10 in Uber Cash each month to use on orders and rides in the U.S. when you select an American Express Card for your transaction. That’s up to $120 Uber Cash annually. Plus, after using your Uber Cash, use your Card to earn 4X Membership Rewards® points for Uber Eats purchases made with restaurants or U.S. supermarkets. Point caps and terms apply.
  • $84 Dunkin' Credit: With the $84 Dunkin' Credit, you can earn up to $7 in monthly statement credits after you enroll and pay with the American Express® Gold Card at U.S. Dunkin' locations. Enrollment is required to receive this benefit.
  • $100 Resy Credit: Get up to $100 in statement credits each calendar year after you pay with the American Express® Gold Card to dine at U.S. Resy restaurants or make other eligible Resy purchases. That's up to $50 in statement credits semi-annually. Enrollment required.
  • $120 Dining Credit: Satisfy your cravings, sweet or savory, with the $120 Dining Credit. Earn up to $10 in statement credits monthly when you pay with the American Express® Gold Card at Grubhub, The Cheesecake Factory, Goldbelly, Wine.com, and Five Guys. Enrollment required.
  • Explore over 1,000 upscale hotels worldwide with The Hotel Collection and receive a $100 credit towards eligible charges* with every booking of two nights or more through AmexTravel.com. *Eligible charges vary by property.
  • No Foreign Transaction Fees.
  • Annual Fee is $325.
  • Terms Apply.