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AirFrance.us Now Shows Delta Awards

by on May 24, 2011 · 21 comments

in Air France, Delta, Flying Blue

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I’m a big fan of using airfrance.us to look up Skyteam award inventory. Historically, it’s been a reliable indicator of Air France, KLM, Alitalia, Czech and Kenyan award availability. When you found something at the Classic level, it meant it was bookable using Delta miles. The only flaw was that Delta inventory did not show.

That seems to have changed recently. Last night, I was poking around and noticed Delta inventory now accurately pulls. I am flying to Paris in June from Newark and I wanted to see if anything was available from JFK. When I entered in the date, the calendar showed 2 business class seats available on June 13.

When I clicked forward, I noticed that it wasn’t the JFK-CDG nonstop, but instead an option to fly Delta JFK-Zurich and then Air France Zurich-Paris.

To check to verify this, I entered in JFK-CDG on Delta.com, however the option did not load – instead a high-tier award through Nice showed up for 225,000 miles. No thanks.

I know delta.com needs to be guided at times, so I loaded up the Multi-city award search tool (delta.com -> Skymiles -> Use Miles -> Award Ticket Reservations -> Multi-City tab) and entered in JFK-ZRH on June 13 and then Zurich to Paris on June 14. It prompted me to select the JFK-ZRH nonstop and then Air France ZRH-CDG, just like Airfrance.us had listed.

Lo an behold, the award priced to 100,000 miles – the lowest level possible for Delta business class awards to Europe (Delta does not price one-way awards at half the price of roundtrip unfortunately). I decided not to book this, since my Newark-CDG is just fine, but I think it’s pretty nifty that Airfrance.us shows Delta availability more readily than delta.com. As you can also see, Air France imposes steep award fuel surcharges, so it generally makes sense to book awards through Delta, especially if you are going to use American Express points since they have an incredible 50% transfer bonus until May 31, 2011.

I highly recommend any Delta frequent flyers to sign up for Flying Blue accounts, which you can do here. As mentioned, anytime you see Classic award space, it means it can usually be booked using Delta SkyMiles at the lowest award level possible. Sometimes you can replicate the results using the multi-city search, but often you need to call Delta at 1-800-323-2323.

Check out my screen shots below for my example. I haven’t tested out too many other examples, so I’m not sure if 100% of Delta award inventory is search-able on airfrance.us, but I’m hopeful their systems are indeed linked, because Delta.com is erratic when it comes to searching for low level awards. For tips on booking Delta awards, check out my post on the topic.

Airfrance.us Results for a JFK-CDG Search

I tried to get the same results on Delta.com

No luck replicating the results using the One Way search ... most people would give up, but I knew to try multi-city

Sometimes you need to tell Delta.com EXACTLY what you want

Bingo! Low level business class awards are possible - even for peak summer travel as long as you are flexible and know how to search for them


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  • Itsaboutthejourney

    Great work-around for delta.dumb!

  • Ryan

    Thanks TPG! That is great news!

  • David

    The nicest part of the last Delta screen capture is the lack of fuel surcharges that were included in the AF screen capture: $280 per ticket. Ouch!

  • hoglard1

    Thanks TPG! This is very useful info. I just tried using the search engine with hypothetical dates. It found some very interesting awards, but the fuel surcharges ($490) and taxes ($160) are indeed expensive.

  • Lantean

    Great improvement! I just wish they would allow to only search for non-stop flights if I want to… or finally load Czech air inventory…

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  • Allan

    So confusing. Trying to book reward flights from (ultimately) NYC to HKG in December. Best I can find on delta.com is 120k mile per person awards for LGA-DTW-HKG in Economy.

    airfrance.us SAYS I should be able to find something for 160k miles per person round trip for buisness, 80k miles for economy… but I’ve no clue how to even figure out how to get that done. using NYC and HKG on the website comes up with no flights at all.

  • The Points Guy

    @allan- you have to search the direct routes. Delta doesn’t fly nonstop NYC-HKG. So type in DTW-HKG and then find the dates that have availability. Once you find them, match them up with dates that have low awards LGA/JFK/EWR to DTW, plug them into Delta.com and you should be able to book the award for 120,000 Delta miles in business class roundtrip.

  • Allan

    Thank you!

    I did a bit more digging around. seems as though the DTW-HKG low fares are few and far between, particularly around the dates we’re looking to book. Sigh. Thanks so much for helping!

  • Chris S

    If you want to find low award flights to Europe using Skymiles, the ability to use Airfrance.com is key. Just did a dummy booking for a real trip that I am taking this summer. Booked the award with United because I was able to find 2 BE seats for 210K miles. .dumb was asking for crazy numbers (400K, 525K and 675K were some of the duzzy numbers), but now that I know the tricks…………

    Dummy booking
    Outbound
    7/18 ORD>>AMS
    7/19 AMS>>BCN

    Return
    7/28 BCN>>CDG
    7/28 CDG>>MSP
    7/28 MSP>>MSN

    Except for the one short segment, all in Business or First. Total cost in miles?? 100,000 per ticket. Of course Delta.dumb will not let you hold the itinerary w/o getting one of its classic messages, but I’m sure that if I called an agent, they could get it done.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=511772692 Gina DeFurio Schmitz

    Hi! I know this is an old post, but hoping you have an answer to my question. I’ve joined FB for the purpose of looking up award flights to use my skymiles on. If a classic fair on AF is 25K miles, does that translate to 25K skymiles?

    Thanks for any imput!

  • Anonymous

    A classic award can be booked using Delta miles. How many Delta miles it will be depends on the route and how many miles Delta charges for that award

  • Joe L.

    I found Air France flights available on their website, but the delta agent claims no availability. What do I need to tell the agent to do so he/she can see the same availability? Can’t book on Delta.com since I get the “just sold out” line at the last minute.

  • MJLouise

    Try to call back at least once more with a different agent.

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  • Isabelle B.

    Hi! I tried looking up FlyingBlue to locate available flights. I then checked to find the same routes on Delta and they weren’t showing up, even using the multicity option. I also called Delta and they said it’s not because it’s showing on Air France that it’s possible to book with delta miles. I was told that AF only gives Delta a certain number of seats, and those seats may all be taken. Is that right and therefore, the FlyingBlue award website isn’t that accurate after all?

  • Jim

    How do you find the “saver” fares on Delta?

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