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A 90-day wait to transfer points — reader mistake story

Nov. 06, 2019
4 min read
A 90-day wait to transfer points — reader mistake story
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Today, I want to share a story from TPG reader Matt, who hit a roadblock while trying to book a trip to Europe:

For Christmas this year, my dad told me I could redeem his 140,000 Delta SkyMiles. I wanted to use them to fly to London in Virgin Atlantic's Upper Class. I found a flight that worked with my schedule, except the total cost was 160,000 SkyMiles. I thought I had a solution: I could simply transfer 20,000 of my Amex Membership Rewards points to my dad's Delta account. However, I quickly found out how Amex and Chase transfer rules differ.

Two weeks prior, I added my dad as an authorized user on my American Express® Gold Card, because I knew members can only transfer Membership Rewards points to their own loyalty accounts or to accounts belonging to an authorized user. What I didn’t know is that authorized users have to be on your account for at least 90 days to be eligible to receive transfers (unlike Chase).

Because of this rule, I’m currently unable to transfer the extra 20,000 points I need. In the end, I decided to wait until January to book this trip for a summer 2020 vacation in London.

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The ability to pool and share rewards among loyalty account holders makes it easier to save for and book award travel. However, the protocol for transferring points between members is different for each loyalty program. American Express won't let you transfer points to another Membership Rewards account, but you can transfer points to the airline or hotel account of an authorized user. As Matt learned, that authorized user must be on your account for at least 90 days to be eligible to receive transferred points, but they don't need to have any special relationship to you — simply being an authorized user on your account is sufficient.

Chase doesn't impose a time requirement to transfer Ultimate Rewards points to another member, but does require that the recipient be a member of your household (or an "owner of the company" for business cards). In comparison, Citi ThankYou Rewards and Capital One Rewards let you transfer to other members regardless of your relationship or how long your accounts have been active, though Citi caps the number of points shared or received at 100,000 annually, and enforces a strict expiration policy of 90 days from the transfer date. For its part, Marriott Bonvoy also caps transfers, and only allows sharing between accounts that have been open for 90 days (or 30 days with qualifying activity).

These various restrictions may seem onerous when you're up against them, but you can work around them with advance planning. Just make sure you know the rules if your next award involves transferring or sharing points with someone else.

Related: 21 airlines that allow families to pool miles

I appreciate this story, and I hope it can help other readers avoid making the same mistake. In appreciation for sharing this experience (and for allowing us to post it online), I’m sending Matt a gift card to enjoy on future travels, and I'd like to do the same for you. Please email your own travel mistake stories to info@thepointsguy.com, and put "Reader Mistake Story" in the subject line. Tell us how things went wrong, and (where applicable) how you made them right. Offer any wisdom you gained from the experience, and explain what the rest of us can do to avoid the same pitfalls.

Feel free to also submit your best travel success stories. If your story is published in either case, I’ll send you a gift to jump-start your next adventure. Due to the volume of submissions, we can't respond to each story individually, but we'll be in touch if yours is selected. I look forward to hearing from you, and until then, I wish you a safe and mistake-free journey!

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    Earn 80,000 bonus points after you spend $4,000 on purchases in the first 3 months from account opening. That's $1,200 toward travel when you redeem through Chase Ultimate Rewards®

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  • Recommended Credit
    Credit ranges are a variation of FICO© Score 8, one of many types of credit scores lenders may use when considering your credit card application.

    740-850
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Why We Chose It

If you are looking to take your premium rewards to the highest level, this card is really a no brainer in our eyes. Chase's Ultimate Rewards make points easy to redeem, with a wide range of 10 airline and three hotel transfer partners and a friendly user interface. Despite the high annual fee, Chase is consistently adding new benefits to keep the card competitive in a fierce premium rewards field.

Pros

  • $300 annual travel credit as reimbursement for travel purchases charged to your card each account anniversary year
  • Access to Chase Ultimate Rewards hotel and airline travel partners
  • Unlimited 3x points on the broad category of travel and dining
  • 50% more value when you redeem your points for travel through Chase Ultimate Rewards®
  • Broad definitions for travel and dining bonus categories

Cons

  • Steep $550 annual fee
  • May not make sense for people that don't travel frequently
  • You must spend the $300 travel credit before earning 3x points for travel and dining
  • No automatic hotel elite status
  • Earn 80,000 bonus points after you spend $4,000 on purchases in the first 3 months from account opening. That's $1,200 toward travel when you redeem through Chase Ultimate Rewards®
  • $300 Annual Travel Credit as reimbursement for travel purchases charged to your card each account anniversary year.
  • Earn 5x total points on flights and 10x total points on hotels and car rentals when you purchase travel through Chase Ultimate Rewards® immediately after the first $300 is spent on travel purchases annually. Earn 3x points on other travel and dining & 1 point per $1 spent on all other purchases
  • Get 50% more value when you redeem your points for travel through Chase Ultimate Rewards®. For example, 80,000 points are worth $1,200 toward travel
  • 1:1 point transfer to leading airline and hotel loyalty programs
  • Access to 1,300+ airport lounges worldwide after an easy, one-time enrollment in Priority Pass™ Select and up to $100 application fee credit every four years for Global Entry, NEXUS, or TSA PreCheck®
  • Count on Trip Cancellation/Interruption Insurance, Auto Rental Collision Damage Waiver, Lost Luggage Insurance and more