Starwood American Express 30,000 Point Sign-Up Bonus

by The Points Guy on July 26, 2011 · 99 comments

in American Express,Starwood

While we’ve been used to 50k+ sign-up bonuses this year, you may want to consider the new offer from American Express for their Starwood card. You get 30,000 Starwood points after spending $4,500 within three months. Their normal offer is 10,000 points with 15,000 after $15,000 in spend within 6 months, so this offer is more lucrative and more attainable for those with lower spends, plus the $65 annual fee is waived for the first year on both personal and business cards. Limited-time. 

Update: 30k bonus expired 8/22/11. Current bonus is 25,000 after $15,000 spend in 6 months.

Personal card application (Note: You must be logged out of your American Express account for the 30k bonus to load- or use a new browser).
Business card application

Why are Starpoints valuable? In general, because there is a ton of flexibility in the redemption options.

1) Free hotel nights. Starwood has great award availability. 10k will get you a free night at a nice hotel (12k even nicer, 20/30k at a top hotel). If you redeem for 4 nights, you get the 5th free. So 40,000 points will get you 5 nights at a category 4 hotel.

Starwood Free Night Chart

2) Cash & Points! This is primarily the way I use my Starwood points. This can save you huge money, especially when traveling to Europe, where the Euro/Pound is killer. This option allows you to use a small amount of points with a cash (in USD) outlay. For example, I always use 4,800 Starpoints and $90 USD for my stays at the Westin Palace Madrid, when the room rates were all over 250 euros a night ($361). $361-90, means my 4,800 Starpoints saved me $271 or 5.6 points a piece – and this isn’t even an extreme example! I have gotten close to 12 cents per Starpoint on some redemptions. While Cash & Points space is limited, if you are flexible you can almost always make it work (or ask the hotel to release space).

The living room of my suite at the Westin Palace - Elites can get upgraded on award/cash & point stays

3) Airline transfers. While I primarily use my Starpoints for Starwood hotel stays (since I have boatloads of airline miles), it has come in handy to be able to transfer points to airlines whenever I need to top off accounts. And the kicker is that Starwood throws in a 5,000 point bonus for every 20,000 points transferred. Transfers sometimes take up to a week (or more), which is a drag, but there’s no way around that. The extensive list of transfer partners (note: American Airlines, which is not a part of the American Express or Chase programs – many AA flyers looking to bump up their lifetime miles will transfer Starpoints to AA because they count towards qualification):

Frequent Flyer ProgramExchange Ratio (Starpoints : Miles)
Aeroplan/Air Canada1:1
Air Berlin1:1
Air China Companion1:1
Air New Zealand & Air Points65:1
Alaska Airlines Mileage Plan1:1
Alitalia MilleMiglia1:1
All Nippon Airways (ANA) Mileage Club1:1
American Airlines AAdvantage1:1
Asia Miles1:1
Asiana Airlines1:1
British Airways Executive Club1:1
Continental Airlines(R) OnePass2:1
Delta Air Lines SkyMiles1:1
El Al Israel AirlinesNo Transfer Option
Emirates Skywards1:1
Flying Blue1:1
Hawaiian Airlines1:1
Iberia PlusNo Transfer Option
Japan Airlines (JAL) Mileage Bank1:1
King Club Miles1:1
LAN LANPASS1:2
Mexicana Frecuenta1:1
Miles and More1:1
Qatar Airways1:1
Saudi Arabian Airlines Alfursan1:1
Singapore Airlines KrisFlyer1:1
Thai Airways International Royal Orchid Plus1:1
US Airways Dividend Miles1:1
United Mileage Plus2:1
VARIG Smiles2:1
Virgin Atlantic Flying Club1:1

4) Earning on Starwood spend. Regular Starwood Preferred Guest members get 2 points per dollar spent. If you have the Starwood card, that increases to 4 points and if you have elite status it’s 5 points per dollar spent.

5) Elite status. Having the card knocks off 2 stays or 5 nights towards elite qualification. That means you only need 23 stays or 45 nights to get coveted Platinum status, which I’ve had for years and generally love. Starwood Platinums get space available suite upgrades (international properties are generally great with this benefit – US is hit or miss), 500 point amenity per stay, 50% bonus on Starpoints earned and special customer service/gifts throughout the year. Gold status is earned at $30,000 in spend on the card or 8 stays/20 nights. FYI: if you have an American Express Platinum Card, you get complimentary Gold status.
Key perks:
Gold - An extra point per dollar spent on Starwood stays, 4pm late check-out, room upgrades and enhanced customer service.
Platinum – Gold benefits, plus select standard suite upgrades if available at check-in, free internet, 500 point or local gift amenity, gym/lounge access, concierge and guaranteed room availability (at rack rate).

6) Business card. Amex offers a business card option, which is a nice tag team to a personal card. Plus, you can combine the elite qualification benefits – slicing 4 stays or 10 nights off elite qualification, thus making it only 21 stays or 40 nights to Platinum.

7) Starwood Moments. Throughout the year Starwood offers unique experiences for sale only via using your Starpoints. I have seen a lot of good values and recently they’ve been “selling” premium concert tickets at huge discounts. I haven’t personally gotten in on them, but friends recently snagged tickets that were near front row orchestra with face value of $300 per ticket – for 5,000 Starpoints for both tickets.

8 ) SPG Flights. Generally not the best redemption, but Starwood lets you use points for 1 cent each towards booking revenue airline tickets (meaning you get the miles and elite status for the flights).

Overall, it’s a solid every day spending card that allows you to accrue valuable, flexible points. Note: it does have foreign transaction fees, so I don’t recommend it for international travel/spend.

What are your thoughts/experiences with the Starwood Amex card?
Personal card details:

  • Anonymous

    Okay.. I can answer my own question… they saw two applications in the system, so wanted to make sure they weren’t duplicate. Rep didn’t seem to have a problem with applying for personal and business so the business one has been released for processing.. Will post back with how I get on!

  • Chris

    I’m moving to Canada in the next couple of months. So it might be time to jump on these points well I’m still eligible.

  • Solomon

    Given that LAN gives a 2:1 ratio for transfers and LAN is a oneworld member, wouldnt it make sense to transfer most or all points to LAN? Separately, how do you figure out the best mix of cash and points for hotels? Is there an ideal ratio? Thanks!

  • Paul

    The application for the business card is not working for me (IE8). Tried clearing the cache – still no go.
    Is Amex still having issues?
    I have a personal SPG Amex – can I get the 30K points on a business card (if I get approved)?

  • Anonymous

    Its not working for me either- I have no idea what the problem is. You think they’d have it worked out by now! I tried to find an active 30k link elsewhere and couldn’t so if you want to just hang tight, it should be up by tomorrow.

  • Jason

    In looking at spg.com, I have found very little in the way of cash and points options as far as booking a hotel. Have they tightened up on this??

  • Ryan B

    This is not churnable – correct? i.e., if you’ve had the specific card before – even a year ago – you will not get the bonus for signing up again. Correct? (Sorry for asking twice – didn’t get an answer before.)

  • Anonymous

    Technically No, but if you cancelled it 2+ years ago, of say there is a chance. Otherwise I recommend just getting the business card- same offer and you use your social security number to get it

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  • Lisa

    If I transfer Starpoints to my AA account does it not only count toward the accrual of lifetime miles but does it also reset the 18 month expiration period for my current miles? I have a lot of AA miles banked and I keep a Citi AA card open just so I can can charge something every once in awhile and make sure I don’t lose them. I like the idea of dumping that card and getting this one. I was also thinking of dumping either my Amex Blue or Green anyway, once CO/UA pull out of Membership Rewards. This sounds like a good time to make the switch!

  • David Hagins

    I guess still no go on an active link for the Biz card? It’s giving me an error. I wanted to apply for the Personal and Biz at the same time for me and the wife, and maybe even the Gold Premier also. I’m worried Am Ex may so no to me on the Gold Premier if they realize I just opened 2 other Am Ex account with them, so I wanted to apply for all at the same time.

  • MiamiGuy

    I just called and got the additional $5k points. Thanks for this tip!

  • Jack

    If someone needs a referral for the business card 30K offer, email me wwaqe@yahoo.com and I’ll send you the business card 30k link, from my email click the “APPLY NOW” to see the 30k offer application.

  • Lisa

    Thanks, it works

  • Anonymous

    FYI the business link now works.. sorry for the delay! http://thepointsguy.com/go/StarwoodBiz/

  • Anonymous

    Yes- Starwood to AA will count as lifetime miles and it will keep your miles active. It sounds like a good card for you!

  • Anonymous

    The business card link so now works http://thepointsguy.com/go/StarwoodBiz/

  • David Hagins

    Just applied at the same time for personal and Biz. Personal went right through, Biz had me call to approve. I called, they said it should be approved within 24 hours. They said if you apply for both Personal and Biz at the same time, it flags the apps and the system “thinks” that it may be a double application automatically, but you call and they see it’s 2 different apps, it goes through within 24 hours, supposedly.

  • Andrew

    The business application asks for a TIN for sole prop. Can I oput my SSN in instead?

  • Anonymous

    Yep- Ssn should work

  • Kevin

    Just tried to apply for this and the Chase Sapphire at the same time. Got a pending on both. I expected a pending w/ Chase since I got the CO and BA cards back in Feb/Apr of this year. I was surprised to get a pending with Amex since they were instant with my Delta Gold and the Platinum. Excellent credit and all that jazz too. Hopefully I can get them approved.

  • STOBERSRUS

    If I had already a starwoods card that i canceled 6weeks ago can i get bonus for applying again? HOW ABOUT CAN I GET 2X BONUS ONE FOR PERSONAL CARD AND ONE FOR BUSSINESS?

  • Larry K

    I just called SPG Amex (# on the back of my card), told them 1) that I’ve been an SPG Amex card holder for the past two years, 2) my signup offer wasn’t as lucrative as the current signup offer, and 3) that I’m a loyal SPG Amex user. I then asked if I could participate in the currnet offer (ie spend $4.5k in 3 months to get 30k points). She said “no” but instead gave me 2k points. Not bad!

  • Bellagio121

    The Personal link only points to a 10K point bonus and not a 30K point bonus. Is that what we are supposed to see and hope we get 30K point bonus?

  • Anonymous

    Doubtful you will get the bonus again if you just canceled 6 weeks ago. Maybe if it was 2+ years. And yes, you can also get the bonus for the business card

  • Compo

    Moments is a KA programme. Two people to possibly the greatest hospitality ever on Sunday at the 2011 Open in Sandwich – for 10,000 Starpoints!
    Nice one SPG

  • Phil

    The link goes to 10k in bonus, not 30k, has somehting changed?

  • Phil

    The link goes to 10k in bonus, not 30k, has somehting changed?

  • Anonymous

    Log out of your amex account or use a different browser and then you’ll see the 30k bonus

  • Anonymous

    Interesting. I was just looking at the Canadian Gold card and I would say the deal is quite comparable. It’s cheaper ($150CAD vs $175USD), has the same published bonus but with a lower spend threshold (15k @ $500/90days) — 75k secret offer notwithstanding.

    And while it’s true the US Amex offers 3x points on Airfare, the Canadian card offers 2x points on Airfare, Hotel, Cruises and Rental Cars. And best of all, the Canadian card offers travel medical insurance AND trip interruption insurance! The US card you have to buy that as a supplemental ($19/mth for health and $? for interruption). Unless there’s something I’m missing the Canadian card looks to be one hell of a deal. I’m actually going to recommend my northern family members pick one up.

  • Xbrantarx

    Seems that they are either having difficulties or they have pulled this promotion. Trying to apply and no matter which route i take it says that the offer is no longer available.

  • Xbrantarx

    Seems that they are either having difficulties or they have pulled this promotion. Trying to apply and no matter which route i take it says that the offer is no longer available.

  • Anonymous

    It’s definitely not pulled and loads fine for me. Make sure you are logged out of your Amex account and /or use a different browser. Let me know if that works!

  • Anonymous

    It’s definitely not pulled and loads fine for me. Make sure you are logged out of your Amex account and /or use a different browser. Let me know if that works!

  • middlebeiz

    Any ideas on how to up spending to reach the 4.5K ??? I don’t normally spend that much on a card in 3 months. Any help would be appreciated.

  • MJLouise

    What’s the bonus for first usage only? Is it 10k points?

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  • mww

    Any tips on how to ask a hotel to release cash and points space? What’s your success rate in doing so? Thanks

  • Bryan

    When I click the personal card link, the offer is only for 10k points. Am I blind or did they already modify the offer?

  • Anonymous

    Offer is still good- you just need to be signed out of your Amex account or use a different browser

  • Carol

    Business link still works; personal link does not.

  • Anonymous

    Offer is still good- you just need to be signed out of your Amex account or use a different browser

  • Anonymous

    Hi TPG. I got the SPG Amex card last year, and its presently up for renewal. I’m not sure that its worth it for me. Its $65, and I don’t use SPG hotels all that often. On top of that, I recently got the BA Visa card, the Cap 1 card, the Citibank AA Amex, I’ve been approved for the Premier Gold Amex, and am awaiting approval for the Hyatt Card (all thanks to you!) …. Any thoughts or suggestions? Will my [excellent] credit rating really suffer a lot if I cancel?

  • Lisa A.

    I need the personal card 30K offer. The link is no longer working. (and of course I waited until just before the deadline to apply.) I tried from Safari and Firefox. Am definitely logged out of my Amex account. Can anyone help?

  • Lisa

    (different Lisa than the Lisa below)

  • Dzmego

    is business card still offering 30k if so please send link to dzmego@yahoo.com thanks

  • Anonymous

    The 30k signup promo is now over

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  • FW

    Hello Pointsguy:
    I think that I should have read your blog when I applied for my AmexSPG back in Nov 2011. I have spent well over the required $5000 to get the 15K bonus but I think I made the mistake of signing thru my Amex account. Now I am getting nowhere with the CSR, I must have called 4 times in the last 3 weeks and I can’t even get a written response…Do you have any advice on how to proceed to at least get Amex to acknowledge the issue? Meanwhile I have stopped using both Gold Rewards and SPG cards and focused on Chase Sapphire.

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