How to Use British Airways Miles: Post 8, The Art of the Stopover

by The Points Guy on April 23, 2011 · 73 comments

in British Airways,Points Guy Pointers

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This is the eighth installment of my series on maximizing British Airways miles. Since so many of you got in on the super-lucrative 100,000 mile BA Visa sign-up bonus (see details of the current 100K offer), it would be beneficial to check out: General tipsPost 1 – Booking BA Awards, Post 2 – Booking Partner Awards, Post 3 – Oneworld Alliance, Post 4 – Taxes and Fees, Post 5 – Household Accounts, Post 6 – Companion Ticket, Post 7 – Using ExpertFlyer for Partner Award Availability, Post 8 – The Art of the Stopover, Post 9 – Leveraging Miles and Cash Redemptions, and Post 10 - Using Qantas.com to Find Oneworld Award Availability. Also, be sure to look at my post on the credit card deal itself and the lengthy Q&A in the comments section.

I’ve gotten a lot of emails asking me to explain the super-flexible stopover rule. Basically, British Airways will allow unlimited stopovers on award tickets, within reason. The good and bad thing is that there is very little in the rulebook about this. Whereas most airlines have defined rules (no stopovers, 1 stopover, 1 stopover and open jaw or 2 stopovers), British Airways simply states in their Executive Club Rules:

13.8. There are no charges for stopovers included in an Award itinerary. Where stopovers are at connecting points on the most direct route between origin and destination.”

Simple rules from here:
1) You need to call to book stopover awards (1 800 452 1201)

2) You should do all of your research before you call. I recommend using Britishairways.com to search for partner award availability. However – if you don’t live in a major gateway, you should search leg by leg using the one way search function. For example, don’t plug in Minneapolis to Singapore and expect britishairways.com to figure all of the routing options out for you. You need to know the routing (an easy way would be to go to travelocity.com and see what Oneworld partner routing options come up). For example Minneapolis-Chicago-Hong Kong-Singapore. In this case, you’d have to mix American and Cathay Pacific, which would make this a multi Oneworld partner award. Multi = lots of miles = bad. So instead, I’d recommend booking an award Minneapolis to Chicago and then another Chicago-Hong Kong – Singapore on Cathay. You could stopover in Chicago AND Hong Kong (no minimum/maximum), but you’d have to call and know which legs are available. I recommend just searching each individual leg and writing down the ones that are available. Once you have everything written down, call and nicely tell the agent you have your itinerary all planned out and let them know you’ll be giving them dates and flight numbers. As long as you don’t go haywire with stopovers, you shouldn’t have any issues.

Key thing to note – be creative. What this allows is a free domestic trip at the beginning and/or end of any award. So even if you want to fly New York- London- New York, you could actually split up the trip into two one ways. At some earlier point in time, say you want to go to Miami. You could build in half the trip as part of your US-Europe award. Miami-New York (Stop) and then at a later point in time New York- London, which would then be the end of oneway award number 1. And then return London- New York (“stopover” for as long as you want), then New York to, lets say, Los Angeles (final “destination”). Get it? Substitute Los Angeles for whatever city AA flies to. The stopover rule works really well in the US because American has an extensive route map.

3) “Most Direct Route” is the key thing to note. Direct usually means you should be traveling in the same direction (east/west). If you aren’t a geography whiz, I recommend using Google Maps to make sure that your itinerary makes sense.

4) While stopovers are unlimited, you still need to adhere to the One Oneworld award chart if you want the cheapest priced awards. Award charts: BA Only. BA + 1 Partner. Single Oneworld Partner. Multiple Oneworld Partners. That limits how many stops you can build in because most carriers only have 1 hub in each continent. Main exceptions: American has several hubs in the US and Lan has several in South America. I recommend re-reading my post on understanding the Oneworld alliance to familiarize yourself with the route network.

If you are serious about stopovers, check out this Flyertalk thread. If you have any questions, feel free to write below, but honestly you will most likely learn the limits of this rule by trial and error. Feel free to share your experiences in the comments to help others.

  • awr

    Thanks TPG!! I am trying to work on a anniversary trip for my wife and I. From the US to South America using our BA miles (thanks Chase)! I know we gotta get on LAN and for us that means getting to either SFO or LAX.

    Here is my question about stop overs…we could (based on availability) go from LAX->LIM (Lima)->SLC (Santiago)->IPC (Easter Island).

    But….is there a way to add Cuz (Cuzco about an hour flight from Lima) and Buenos Aires on the way back- or no since they have flights from IPC->SLC->LIM->LAX. Could we do essentially two one ways? The outbound being LAX->LIM->SLC->IPC and then a second one way to get home…IPC->SLC->Buenos Aires->LAX.

    Then I guess we have to pay out of pocket to get from Lima to Cuzco on the outbound- is that correct?

    Thanks as always!!!

  • Moosman

    Thanks for the great ideas … planning an aniversary trip from US (Florida) to Asia using BA miles. Ideal trip includes stop in Singapore, then on to either Bali or Bangkok with the other on the way back. For example, MIA – SIN; SIN – DNS; DNS – BKK; BKK – MIA … or MIA – SIN; SIN – BKK; BKK – MIA. I’m thinking Quantas as it has both SIN and BKK (not sure about Bali) but CATH would be fine as well. Perfect solution gets me to SIN by 11 or 12 Nov. Any ideas.? Both wife and I have the 100K, actually around 107K each and I have 52K or so in AM EX so these could be used to plus up our accounts with the 50% bonus … but may not be necessary. I know I probably will need to do some legs on my own with Air Asia and if necessary I can drop SIN from the itinerary altogether without too much pain. I need to book this soon, so please please give me your recommendation.

    Thanks in advance

  • Anonymous

    For 100k you can only fly ONE carrier. Cathay doesnt service Miami so you’ll have to buy separate tickets to a cathay gateway and then go from there. You can probbaly do JFK-HKG-SIn and then BKK-HKG-JFK (switch out whatever asian cities). You can’t go too crazy sincey ou can’t mix carriers. Have fun!

  • Moosman

    Thanks. I’ll give that a try. Any thoughts about Quantas from the West Coast (SFO or LAX?) Quality of the service Quantas vs. Cathay?

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  • Dan

    TPG you really are a genious, and have really made me look at all of my options for my upcoming European trip. I know you said Europe isn’t the best use of miles, but it’s where we were heading so I’m looking to make the most of these miles. Here’s what I have in mind…LAX-MAD-CDG (with possibly another Spanish city prior to CDG) on Iberia. Using Iberia’s new direct flight from LAX-MAD has really opened up my stopover options. Here is my question…since my end destination is CDG, is my entire flight looked at as Euro Zone 1, therefore 50K miles RT? Or will this be Euro Zone 2 since I’m making a stopover in MAD? Your help is greatly appreciated!!

  • JMSL

    Sorry to dig up an old thread, but if anyone sees this I’ve got a quick question. If I book a route online with no stopovers (e.g. JFK to LAX, connecting in ORD) can I later go back and change the date of my second leg, effectively creating a stopover in the connecting city? Assuming yes, can this be done online, or would I need to call?

  • K992061

    Hi there, so I live in the UK and have collected BA miles for a while, in trying to use them it is a continual frustration in not finding flights and not being able to upgrade paid for flights because they are in the wrong class, seriously what is the point? I don’t mind paying to fly with BA but they rewards honestly is nothing compared to Airmiles and the like.

  • Chris

    I’ve read some discussion on FlyerTalk about the absurd fees you have to pay the Chilean government if you fly into SCL internationally. LAN is re-introducing a LIM-IPC flight that you may consider on the inbound. Then, flying into SCL on the outbound is a domestic flight, and you don’t have to pay the fee ($140 per person)?

    I’ve considered this same itinerary, but also had issues finding a way to work Cuzco into the mix. I believe, and I hope I’m wrong, that you can only fly to Cuzco through Lima on LAN. If you’re considering the round trip flight from LIM-CUZ, avoid LAN as they charge the “gringo fare,” markedly higher than the Peruvian citizen fare. Flying LIM-CUZ may be better on one of the discount domestic airlines like Star Peru, or even TACA.

  • Dzt

    Would this type of routing work with Cathay: LAX -> HKG ->TPE (stopover) -> ICN for 25k miles?

    I looked and there are many flights from HKG to ICN thru TPE but would that still be considered natural routing? TPE is on the way to ICN.

  • anon

    I’m trying to use my BA miles for a trip to South America

    flying out of WAS/IAD/DCA .. for 3-4 week trip in Oct 2012

    would like to get hit the following destinations

    guayaquil (stop for 1 week trip to galapagos)
    lima (spend 1 week, including road trio to cusco/machu picchu and back to lima)
    santiago (maybe stop, 1-2 days)
    easter island (2-3 days)
    buenos aires (2-3 days)

    back to WAS/IAD/DCA

    any tips on how to maximize the award miles using the stop over rule? I’m only interested in econ class .. thanks

  • Gzhang97

    Would like to know this one as well.

  • iskatel

    Sorry if it’s been answered already, I’m trying to book a trip SFO-DME-SFO in first class with a companion ticket for April 2012 and it seems that there are no return flights available unless I do a stopover in London. Is there any other way around the stopover? Any suggestions are appreciated!

  • lausun

    FYI I tried booking JFK-HKG(STOP)-BKK(STOP)-SIN all on CX, but was turned down by the agent, she said only bkk or sin, not both. Even though it looks look like a direct route on the map, not sure if it is doable and I just got a bad agent…

  • http://twitter.com/ianchow Ian Chow

    Great article! I hope I’m able to take advantage of this.

    I don’t really understand the award chart for multiple OneWorld Partners. Is it worth it to use more points for multiple partners and take advantage of the ‘free domestic trip’ at the end, vs just going with one partner?

    My situation is I want to go Toronto – Buenos Aires – Toronto on American. I’m hoping to tack on a little something, but everything out of Toronto on American goes south, and so it won’t be ‘most direct’. If I add Cathay (making it multiple partners), I think I may be able to get out to Vancouver? Any ideas? I’d love to tack on a vancouver or calgary ski trip!

  • Anonymous

    BA charges INSANE amounts of miles for awards that have multiple Oneworld partners. Your best value is to use only one. so your only option from YYZ would be to fly American.

  • http://twitter.com/ianchow Ian Chow

    Thanks so much, really appreciate it! You’re referring specifically to this Buenos Aires trip for flying American right? From YYZ there are other flights which use only one partner…

  • Corey A

    Is it possible to fly from either Chicago or NYC to Hong Kong with stopovers in Japan via Cathay Pacific? I am not finding any award availability for Chicago or NYC to Tokyo via Cathay. Actually, would love to just do a multistop trip through Japan if possible, perhaps through Japan Airlines? Would someone please help me? Also, if I book by segments, do I pay surcharges for each flight?

    Thank you

  • Anonymous

    You could do Japan Airlines Chicago-Tokyo-Hong Kong, but finding JAL award availability is difficult

  • Danny M

    As this opportunity to book with BA Executive Club before rules change is going to expire shortly, just wanted to give an update of my experience booking a flight to South America with multiple stopovers today.

    I want to go to South America in January 2012, and am very flex with places to go to and approximate dates.

    Conducting a search as suggested on BA’s partner rewards flights, I found that Lima is the best location to make a stopover in one direction from the US. However dates where mileage flights are available from SF, LA, NYC to Lima are scant in the first several months of 2011. There are many options available for flights like NYC-Buenos Aires direct, for example, but I wanted to stopover in several countries, so opted against that.

    I was fortunately, however, able to find a SF-Lima on Jan 18 with several days layover before continuing to Santiago, Chile with several more days layover before arriving in Montevideo on February 1. for $141 dollars (fees) and 20,000 miles, I am giddy.

    Note: I asked for, but was declined a stop in La Paz between Lima and Santiago, but did not protest too much about this as the lack of t+cs is not so transparent for me to understand where I am right or wrong. The BA rep was extremely patient and helpful, and did not question any of my dates/motives/etc.

  • Spklley

    it seems like the online ba.com allows you to enter multiple one-way tickets … is this not the case and thus must you call the 800 number?

  • Angelicade Guzman

    How to get and know my mileage points.First time to travel using British airways and I think because my airline ticket is always expensive (heading back and forth to grand cayman to philippines)Someone told me that I can redeem some points.can you tell me something about on it.Thanks

  • tm

    no more free stopovers on BA?

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